They could have easily just written him off as a mental case who self-medicated and posted wild, unfounded, contradictory and paranoid tweets and simply assassinated his character.... path of least resistance, right?
Would any of us think it just and fair if we were convicted of a capital crime based on mere possibility?
Look at the comment section of this video on YouTube. The majority by far are by whack job conspiracy theory types that do the cause of Liberty and Justice no benefit, but instead cause harm and make it seem worthy of ridicule.
If there is any means by which freedom loving people can organize and resist being marginalized let alone brutalized it is not like this. Please try to be careful, focused, and judicious.
At NYU, he studied computer science at The Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, where he met the three friends with whom he founded DIASPORA*, a social networking service, in 2010. The project was conceived after the founders had attended a lecture by Columbia Law School professor and free software activist Eben Moglen in February 2010 about the threat to privacy posed by commercial Internet services. According to Moglen, Zhitomirskiy was "immensely talented" and "the most idealistic of the group... He had a choice between graduate school and this project, and he chose to do the project because he wanted to do something with his time that would make freedom".
In the spring of this year, the "Facebook alternative" Diaspora achieved extensive media coverage -- including an article in the New York Times -- and raised tens of thousands of dollars in funding from online donors.
PayPal was blocking social networking startup Diaspora from accessing any of the donations in its PayPal accountNo one seemed to know why -- Diaspora indicated that it's happening "arbitrarily."This happened on the heels of Diaspora reaching out to its users to ask for more donations on top of the $200,000+ already raised via Kickstarter.After lots of tweets and emails from Diaspora users, PayPal has unfrozen the account, reports Launch.is.
Zhitomirskiy committed suicide, a source close to the company told CNNMoney on Sunday.A San Francisco Police Department officer confirmed on Monday that a police report about Zhitomirskiy's death says officers responded to the 700 block of Treat Avenue around 8:10 p.m. on Saturday. The department had received phone calls about a possible suicide.
The facts of his alleged “suicide” are being suppressed for some reason. It has been 48 days since his death. The San Francisco Coroner’s Office announced on November 12, 2011, that the autopsy results would be ready in about 21 days (“three weeks”). I called the San Francisco Coroner on January 22, 2012 for the autopsy results and the examiner’s assistant replied that no report has yet been released. Today is the 48th day since his death and I feel that something may be very wrong within the Coroner’s jurisdiction. I feel that someone is retarding the autopsy report as a regular autopsy would never take so long to complete.
An autopsy report from the San Francisco Coroner's Office is still pending.
When Ilya was killed on November 12, 2011, I reviewed about 45 sites and noticed that the news about his death only mentioned the word “suicide” as his cause of death. I didn’t see a mention of “possibly murdered” anywhere in the news blasts except from a police statement that said the Coroner would decide if he died from suicide or murder. As far as I know I became the first and only person who has publicly conjectured that Ilya may actually have been killed. When a 22-year-old young man is deluged by a flood of donations and praise for his new site it is very difficult to think he took his own life. He actually died from lack of oxygen (suffocation) which indicates that he was smothered to death. No plastic bags, no suicide note and no reason for a suicide points to murderFive months after death the Coroner reported that Ilya had died from lack of oxygen, i.e., “suffocation”. I had called the Coroner’s office every three weeks for the death report. The usual time lapse for an autopsy report is about three or four weeks. My next move is to alert the FBI and police to learn why the report was delayed and who was responsible for the delay and then go from there.
Actually, Ilya did not write a suicide note: Ilya was killed by suffocation (lack of oxygen) according to the San Francisco Coroner. He did NOT commit suicide; he was smothered to death. Murdered by “unknown parties” as the S.F. may now finally say.A solution to their problem (if these people were actually involved: I’m only surmising) was to make a generous offer first and , if declined, kill Ilya Zhitomirsky. A massive media cover-up was pre-arranged with little or no mention of murder. The press did a good job. No mention of “possible murder” with the exception of the police who said the Coroner would determine if it was a murder or a suicide. Out of 45 press releases I reviewed, no mention of a “possible murder” was posed. Hmm.A skim-reader might read the words “suicide note” in the headlines and leave an impression that if Ilya left a suicide note he therefore committed suicide. The journalist who wrote the story certainly knew that there was no suicide note, yet he implied that there was a suicide note in the headline he chose. How strange. Do journalists get paid on the side for planting such disinformation? There was NO suicide note– but it did say“suicide note” in the headlines, didn’t it? Hmm.If one takes the time to read the full article the only reference to a suicide note was this silly reference to another person and contriving an opportunity to bring “suicide note” into the headline. Now we can see where the clever journalist created an opportunity to lead the readers astray.
I strongly believe that if Ilya did not start this [Diaspora] project and stayed in school, he would be well and alive today.
However did you extrapolate anything I said even remotely justifying a beating?
I don't believe Ian was crazy but AFAIK he had been diagnosed with Aspergers which is a serious
I had no way of knowing you were not open to an objective discussion.
Don't worry I won't comment on any of your posts ever again.
I would like to know why they were killed. Who benefits?
Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook CEO, announced after Ilya’s death that he had been one of the 6,500 donors to Ilya’s project, Facebook quickly cleansed itself.
I'm not a member nor a fan of Facebook or Zuckerberg, but I can't imagine anyone thinks it would be fair and just to draw any connection where the sole "evidence" is one benefited from someone else's misfortune. It can sometimes be suspicious but only when there is some other direct connection. It's called "jumping to conclusions" or "grasping at straws", usually on little or no actual evidence but mere speculation.
Is that what you would prefer, how you would like to be judged, in a court of Law or even in daily life?
Ivan, requiring oneself to gather evidence isn't convenient at all. It's just more accurate and discriminating. Obviously you disagree since though you don't know me at all you pigeonhole me into your predetermined conclusion of what ALL Westerners must be like.
In no way did I defend Mr Zuckerberg nor condemn Ilya. I just refuse to draw a conclusion, especially about something as serious as murder, based on such flimsy evidence. I pointed out that you would be outraged if someone accused and judged you in such a manner, and not just in a matter of opinion but with serious consequences.
That Zuckerberg is a "successful western entrepreneur" has almost nothing to do with my judgment of him. He gets no privilege from me. In fact their is some small degree of suspicion exactly because he is so successful in that it makes him powerful and we all know power tends to corrupt. I actually wish I didn't have such suspicions but too often there is at least something real in it, so I can't ignore the instinct. However, suspicion is hardly the same as conclusion. There is a difference.
I never met Ilya nor the cops who ever arrested him
Here's another generalization and unwarranted, but I think, lesser leap for you - People who embrace murder as a solution don't commonly commit just one. Once a person accepts that competition can be eliminated permanently in that manner, do you imagine a "tool" that powerful will be used but once?
Why can't you admit it?
or do you really imagine that somehow one's geography produces hundreds of millions of people who are essentially all the same?
Since your command of English is quite good, I'm sure you realize that "prejudice" is derived from the same fundamentals a "pre judge", right? Maybe, just maybe, that's just a wee bit involved here, yeah?
Again I am sorry for your loss. I hope the two of you were not close.
I did get confused. I had to scroll back to discover how we began discussing Ilya in a thread about Ian.
Given that Zuckerberg was brought in front of a Congressional Investigation for a far lesser offense than murder, I don't see that he would enjoy any manner of privilege in matters as extreme as International effects.
You may know and recall that Ted Kennedy, though possibly successful at covering up his complicity in an accidental manslaughter case of a US citizen
Certainly the Eppstein case is an exception but I think that is a combination of International bigwigs who wish to see it buried, and people who don't care or are even glad a pedophile pimp "got his just desserts".
BTW what concerned Ian so passionately and negatively with plasma scientists?
don't be tricked by extremly smart but soulless manipulator who most possibly works for money mafia of inhumans. he already showed us how deeply dark his soul is, we did checked on him many times already and every time he failed. he think he can trick people here, but he can not trick the Creator, its for sure... so good luck to his (lost) soul. soon he will understand.
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