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2019-09-06 10:44:44

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they bought you.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/05/richard_stallman_microsoft/

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes! Volcanoes!
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
They might also have warned of the dire possibility of Free Software Foundation founder Richard Stallman speaking at Microsoft.

OpenNews.opennet.ru: Общая лента новостей wrote the following post Fri, 06 Sep 2019 09:30:23 +0300

Ричард Столлман выступил перед сотрудниками Microsoft
Ричард Столлман выступил перед сотрудниками Microsoft

Ричард Столлман принял приглашение Microsoft и выступил с докладом перед сотрудниками компании в штаб-квартире Microsoft в Редмонде. До недавних пор подобное выступление выглядело маловероятным из-за активной критики и негативного отношения Столлмана к Microsoft (в свою очередь Стив Балмер сравнивал GPL с раковой опухолью). Алесандро Сегала (Alessandro Segala), менеджер по открытым продуктам в Azure, характеризовал состоявшееся выступление так - "Если сегодня наступит конец света, то вы знайте почему".

#capitalism #copyleft #copyright #fsf #infosec #linux #microsoft #property #revision #rms #software

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2019-09-06 10:46:13

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) wrote the following post Fri, 21 Jun 2019 22:11:34 +0300

What the "Linux" Foundation became http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
Some older coverage: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation_Archives

The Linux Foundation's New Vice Chair, Wim Coekaerts, Worked for Microsoft

Microsoft and Proprietary Software Vendors a Financial Boon for the Linux Foundation, But at What Cost?

Linux Foundation and the Big Surveillance Industry, Media Industry, Microsoft Azure

Jim Zemlin’s PAC Keeps Raising Money From Microsoft

etc etc
#capitalism #conspiracy #infosec #linux #linuxfoundation #microsoft #opensource #opensourcemoney #software #surveillance

2019-09-06 10:46:58

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

Похоже, что идея "копилефта" сегодня уже окончательно дискредитирована.

Почему мы не можем регулировать Google и подобные организации:
Потому как некоторые легитимизируют их через акты спонсирования.
Я: Судя по наблюдениям, Google - это капиталист, который зарабатывает на ваших слежке и профилировании. Это представляет угрозу правам человека и демократии. Мы должны регулировать их.
Политик: ты, должно быть, ошибаешься, они хорошие парни. Посмотрите, они спонсируют CopyLeft Conf с логотипом FSF, гордо показывая "доказательство".

Aral Balkan wrote the following post Thu, 10 Jan 2019 12:16:56 +0300

Why we can’t regulate Google, etc:

Because of useful idiots like @conservancy legitimising them by being sponsored by them.

Me: Google is a surveillance capitalist that makes billions tracking and profiling you. They are a threat to our human rights and democracy. We just regulate them.

Policymaker: you must be mistaken, they’re the good guys. Look, here they are allowed to sponsor CopyLeft Conf with the FSF logo displayed proudly next to theirs.

#copyleft #copyright #fsf #google #infosec #microsoft #property #revision #software #usa

2019-09-06 13:03:45

Scott McCoy

the___jay@joindiaspora.com

The day is near when Linus is told what to put into the kernel and what not, if it's not already happening.

2019-09-06 16:02:55

Gokh

gokhlayeh@pod.geraspora.de

Thanks for posting that. It is so sad, I can't believe it :(

2019-09-06 16:08:58

Scott McCoy

the___jay@joindiaspora.com

When I think of it, was the Linux Foundation created to allow Microsoft to devour Linux?

2019-09-06 16:15:18

Gokh

gokhlayeh@pod.geraspora.de

Maybe, it look that way :(

2019-09-06 16:25:47

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

I could say it look like Redhat was created to allow also IBM to devour Linux, according to this data:

ivan zlax wrote the following post Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:54:02 +0300

@Andreas Scherbaum
commercial aspect:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html
ideological aspect:
https://www-03.ibm.com/employment/us/veteran_talent/
right aspect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II
public aspect:
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2334426/ibm-denies-nsa-involvement-and-prism-surveillance
bureaucratic aspect:
https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/23460.wss
documental aspect:
http://cryptome.org/0001/nsa-meyer.htm

2019-09-06 16:35:04

Andreas Scherbaum

ads@pluspora.com

You throw NSA and World War II and IBM and Red Hat and Prism into the same posting and you expect anything serious as outcome?

2019-09-06 16:35:22

Gokh

gokhlayeh@pod.geraspora.de

Interesting links, thanks again, @ivan zlax

2019-09-06 16:53:49

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

@Andreas Scherbaum

You throw NSA and World War II and IBM and Red Hat and Prism into the same posting and you expect anything serious as outcome?

Oh, yeah, for the sake of completeness, it's worth mentioning Ian Murdock's "suicide":

So that, if someone justifies this initiative, he can feel like a full-fledged accomplice to those who benefited from Ian's "suicide".

2019-09-06 19:17:14

Chloe

starrychloe@fsphub.org

Richard Stallman isn’t a libertarian. I believe he’s a socialist and has socialist posts on his Gnu Social instance. He’s more aligned with globalists.

2019-09-06 20:07:45

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

#rms two years ago:

"It certainly looks that way. But it won't be so easy to extinguish us, because our reasons for using and advancing free software are not limited to practical convenience,"

"We want freedom. As a way to use computers in freedom, Windows is a non-starter."

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/will-microsoft-love-linux-to-death-shuttleworth-and-stallman-on-whether-windows-10-is-free-softwares/

2019-09-06 20:26:32

BR 549 ☎

urbanroman@diasp.org

damn auto starting video.

anyway, the push I have seen over the last several years is 'cloud computing'. Microsoft no longer allows you to install Office Suite applications, you must run the spreadsheet, etc. applications remotely on the M$ cloud. And several of the popular Linux distros keep trying to get you to store all your photos and documents on their cloud.

so Microsoft does not care what you run on your computer, it is merely a remote terminal on their cloud. and they will 'own' all your data. . .

it is taking much longer than I ever thought it would, for Microsoft to die.

2019-09-06 21:49:35

Scott McCoy

the___jay@joindiaspora.com

I believe he’s a socialist and has socialist posts on his Gnu Social instance. He’s more aligned with globalists.

No, he is a socialist, but not aligned with the globalists. Rare, but it happens.

2019-09-06 22:02:47

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

@Scott McCoy

Rare, but it happens.

This is rare in the West, but in the third world socialists are most often anti-globalist:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/27/globalisation.jotuckman
Common far-left libertarian-socialist anti-globalist movement.

2019-09-06 22:11:23

Scott McCoy

the___jay@joindiaspora.com

For a simple reason. There is no bankster class in those countries.

In the west we have an unholy alliance between the left and Wall Street, the deadliest mix ever created.

2019-09-08 01:49:08

rradekanon@diasp.org

The authentic left was nearly extinguished in the USA during the cold war, but there are people like Noam Chomsky, who is a left-libertarian (anarcho-syndicalist) and Chris Hedges. You won't see guys like that lining up with Wall Street, but Globalism is a broad term. In it's current incarnation, dominated by the IMF and multinational corporations, they would oppose it but they would likely be more amenable to something closer to the spirit of the original UN charter.

2019-09-08 13:37:45

Scott McCoy

the___jay@joindiaspora.com

Yeah, but those are communists.They truly believe you can pull off such a thing. They should ask Lenin how that worked out. Socialists on the other hand only tell the goal is communism while aiming at socialism.

2019-09-17 12:22:19

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

https://www.thedailybeast.com/famed-mit-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-defends-epstein-victims-were-entirely-willing
https://rense.com/general96/the-epstein-funded-child-porn-hub-mit-media-lab-that-murdered-aaron-swartz.php
...
http://techrights.org/2019/09/15/media-attention-has-been-shifted/

Allegedly, Bill Gates, a regular member of the Jerry Epstein Island orgies, was on the verge of being exposed, and he hired a pack of Twitter feminists to smear the RMS mud, while simultaneously sending out of money to all the media in an attempt to focus media attention on Stallman. Stallman did not participate in the orgies, but dared to doubt the details of the media presentation of this whole asshole story.

2023-06-16 22:36:26

ivan zlax

zlax@ussr.win

https://web.archive.org/web/20130909221051/http://jeder.ru/?p=250 Зачем Столлману GPL или кто же на самом деле написал Emacs?